Discussion:
Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]
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starpower4u
2002-09-04 22:20:41 UTC
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Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went 'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well, the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and critters.

-jeff




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Michael Welch, Home Power
2002-09-04 22:52:30 UTC
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Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went 'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well, the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and critters.
-jeff
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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-04 23:41:30 UTC
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Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
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34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

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matthew tritt
2002-09-05 01:06:12 UTC
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Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
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matthew tritt
2002-09-05 01:06:12 UTC
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Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-05 13:31:59 UTC
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Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
"Children are born with an innate sense of justice; it usually takes 12
years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

Michael Welch, michael.welch at homepower.com
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Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works
2002-09-05 13:38:23 UTC
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Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
"Children are born with an innate sense of justice; it usually takes 12
years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

Michael Welch, michael.welch at homepower.com
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Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works
2002-09-05 13:38:23 UTC
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Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
"Children are born with an innate sense of justice; it usually takes 12
years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

Michael Welch, michael.welch at homepower.com
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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-05 13:53:01 UTC
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Around here the name is used interchangeably. Probably just how things are
done in different locations of the country.

No problem,
Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works [mailto:telliot at wagonmaker.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

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matthew tritt
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Bob,

hedgehog:
Noun: 1. Any of small insectivorous mammals of the family Erindaceidae of
Europe, Africa and Asia, having the back covered with dense, erectile spines
and characteristally rolling into a ball for protection. 2.
Any of several spiny animals, such as porcupine, that are similar to the
hedgehog. 3. A well fortified military position. 4. An anti-submarine weapon
consisting of several rows of mortar-like dischargers positioned to fire in
a circular pattern ahead of a ship. 5. An obstacle used against tanks and
landing craft, consisting of three crossed iron bars welded or bolted
together.

Actual hedgehogs are extremely cute, friendly and make perfect pets. They
are about 6" to 9" long and weigh up to 1.5 lbs. Not your garage door
eating, dog-poking porcupine.

So there you are. You are apparently correct in that regional vocabulary
thing!

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:53 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Around here the name is used interchangeably. Probably just how things are
done in different locations of the country.

No problem,
Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works [mailto:telliot at wagonmaker.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
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matthew tritt
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Bob,

hedgehog:
Noun: 1. Any of small insectivorous mammals of the family Erindaceidae of
Europe, Africa and Asia, having the back covered with dense, erectile spines
and characteristally rolling into a ball for protection. 2.
Any of several spiny animals, such as porcupine, that are similar to the
hedgehog. 3. A well fortified military position. 4. An anti-submarine weapon
consisting of several rows of mortar-like dischargers positioned to fire in
a circular pattern ahead of a ship. 5. An obstacle used against tanks and
landing craft, consisting of three crossed iron bars welded or bolted
together.

Actual hedgehogs are extremely cute, friendly and make perfect pets. They
are about 6" to 9" long and weigh up to 1.5 lbs. Not your garage door
eating, dog-poking porcupine.

So there you are. You are apparently correct in that regional vocabulary
thing!

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:53 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Around here the name is used interchangeably. Probably just how things are
done in different locations of the country.

No problem,
Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works [mailto:telliot at wagonmaker.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

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Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went 'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well, the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and critters.

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Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went 'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well, the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and critters.
-jeff
Michael Welch

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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-04 23:41:30 UTC
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Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
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34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-05 13:31:59 UTC
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Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
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34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
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years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

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Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems
2002-09-05 13:53:01 UTC
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Around here the name is used interchangeably. Probably just how things are
done in different locations of the country.

No problem,
Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
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34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
?????????????????????????????? 13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Elliot, Guffey Energy Works [mailto:telliot at wagonmaker.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Um, Bob, sorry but on this one you're mistaken. Porcupines and hedgehogs
are two entirely different animals. Hedgehogs actually make pretty good
pets.

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Have you ever spent 4 hours pulling quills from 2 dogs after they messed
with one, or paid a $200.00 vet bill for having it done for you?

These are also called porcupine's
They also eat the bark off the base of trees, killing them (the trees).
In short, I doubt this is the same animal, they ain't cute, cuddly or nice
pets and yes I will kill them.

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Surely you wouldn't actually kill a hedgehog! Is this the same type that
lives in Europe that everyone puts out milk and cookies for? It's difficult
to imagine a hedgehog as malicious (unlike Norwegian Rats)

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Sometimes the best solution when all else fails is to kill the damned
things. I have a hedgehog eating the inside insulation of my shop, rubber
insulation, and other goodies and I can't find him doing it to give him a
.30 worth of lesson in manners......

Bob

RE. Ellison
Supplier of;
Alternative Energy Systems & Supplies
34642 Countryman Road
Theresa, NY. USA
13691-2076


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch, Home Power [mailto:michael.welch at homepower.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Vermin solution [RE-wrenches]


Moth balls, flakes, etc. contain naphthalene, a poison that can produce a
wide range of serious problems. Even death.
Post by starpower4u
Hardware cloth works when you can get into all nooks and crannies. I went
'round and 'round with the little devils trying to keep them out of my
motorcycle trunk and some electronics and yes I have a great hunter for a
cat. The final solution - moth balls! Never a problem since the introduction
and they are cheap, last almost a year and keep 'em away w/o killing (well,
the cat'll get 'em!) They seem to work on a host of insects (even wasps) and
critters.
Post by starpower4u
-jeff
Michael Welch

------------------------
"Children are born with an innate sense of justice; it usually takes 12
years of public schooling and 4 more years of college to beat it out of
them."
Edward Abbey

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